Discussion:
Saving as web page
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Ryan Vande
2009-09-14 15:17:02 UTC
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When I link objects to a database and then save the visio document as a web
page everything works good when I open that web page.

So one day I was like hmmm I wonder if this is dynamic, dynnamic meaning if
I change something in my table within the database will that saved web page
be updated with the changes?

And to my surprise It did not , I mean I could re save the Visio document as
a web page to reflect the changes but that is not what I am looking for, can
someone help me out with this issue? Can a visio document saved as a web page
be a "dynamic" web page that consistantly stays updated with the database ?
David J Parker [MVP Visio]
2009-09-14 20:19:46 UTC
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Linked data and associated data graphics will be able to refreshed
automatically if you save to SharePoint in the next version on Visio.
http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/2009/07/17/visio-2010-technical-preview-released.aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
When I link objects to a database and then save the visio document as a web
page everything works good when I open that web page.
So one day I was like hmmm I wonder if this is dynamic, dynnamic meaning if
I change something in my table within the database will that saved web page
be updated with the changes?
And to my surprise It did not , I mean I could re save the Visio document as
a web page to reflect the changes but that is not what I am looking for, can
someone help me out with this issue? Can a visio document saved as a web page
be a "dynamic" web page that consistantly stays updated with the database ?
Ryan Vande
2009-09-14 21:52:01 UTC
Permalink
So with what your saying, it will be safe for me to stop chasing this
objective for now because it cant happen (at least until the next version of
visio)?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Linked data and associated data graphics will be able to refreshed
automatically if you save to SharePoint in the next version on Visio.
http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/2009/07/17/visio-2010-technical-preview-released.aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
When I link objects to a database and then save the visio document as a web
page everything works good when I open that web page.
So one day I was like hmmm I wonder if this is dynamic, dynnamic meaning if
I change something in my table within the database will that saved web page
be updated with the changes?
And to my surprise It did not , I mean I could re save the Visio document as
a web page to reflect the changes but that is not what I am looking for, can
someone help me out with this issue? Can a visio document saved as a web page
be a "dynamic" web page that consistantly stays updated with the database ?
David J Parker [MVP Visio]
2009-09-15 06:48:42 UTC
Permalink
Correct, unless you want to write some code to do it now ... which is
possible.
Even in Visio 2010, it will not add or delete shapes automatically, just
refresh the data linked to existing shapes, so if you are expecting
additions or deletions then you will need to write code anyway.
Also, the Visio 2010 refresh is for diagrams published to SharePoint (MOSS)
only, thus you will need to write code if that is not your framework.
It is possible to setup an agent to silently start Visio, update the
diagram, then re-save as web page(s) automatically whenever something
changes, such as data, but that is custom code.
Post by Ryan Vande
So with what your saying, it will be safe for me to stop chasing this
objective for now because it cant happen (at least until the next version of
visio)?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Linked data and associated data graphics will be able to refreshed
automatically if you save to SharePoint in the next version on Visio.
http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/2009/07/17/visio-2010-technical-preview-released.aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
When I link objects to a database and then save the visio document as a web
page everything works good when I open that web page.
So one day I was like hmmm I wonder if this is dynamic, dynnamic
meaning
if
I change something in my table within the database will that saved web page
be updated with the changes?
And to my surprise It did not , I mean I could re save the Visio
document
as
a web page to reflect the changes but that is not what I am looking
for,
can
someone help me out with this issue? Can a visio document saved as a
web
page
be a "dynamic" web page that consistantly stays updated with the
database
?
Ryan Vande
2009-09-15 15:55:01 UTC
Permalink
Can you direct me into what language to use and maybe how to start writing
this code. Not actually writing it but like what IDE I would want to use and
again the language? Now I'm not a very experienced programmer, however I'm
trying to learn all the ins and outs of programming so think you can start me
off with what I would want to look into?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Correct, unless you want to write some code to do it now ... which is
possible.
Even in Visio 2010, it will not add or delete shapes automatically, just
refresh the data linked to existing shapes, so if you are expecting
additions or deletions then you will need to write code anyway.
Also, the Visio 2010 refresh is for diagrams published to SharePoint (MOSS)
only, thus you will need to write code if that is not your framework.
It is possible to setup an agent to silently start Visio, update the
diagram, then re-save as web page(s) automatically whenever something
changes, such as data, but that is custom code.
Post by Ryan Vande
So with what your saying, it will be safe for me to stop chasing this
objective for now because it cant happen (at least until the next version of
visio)?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Linked data and associated data graphics will be able to refreshed
automatically if you save to SharePoint in the next version on Visio.
http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/2009/07/17/visio-2010-technical-preview-released.aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
When I link objects to a database and then save the visio document as a web
page everything works good when I open that web page.
So one day I was like hmmm I wonder if this is dynamic, dynnamic
meaning
if
I change something in my table within the database will that saved web page
be updated with the changes?
And to my surprise It did not , I mean I could re save the Visio
document
as
a web page to reflect the changes but that is not what I am looking
for,
can
someone help me out with this issue? Can a visio document saved as a
web
page
be a "dynamic" web page that consistantly stays updated with the
database
?
David J Parker [MVP Visio]
2009-09-17 19:19:38 UTC
Permalink
Gosh ... depends on what tools you have available to you

I personally use VBA, vb.net and c# ... which happens to be the languages in
the Visio SDK Code Samples
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/aa905478.aspx
There's an example Save Drawing as Web under the Publishing branch, which
you need.. Then you need something to start that process after the drawing
has been refreshed....

Also, this was a good book:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa245244(office.10).aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
Can you direct me into what language to use and maybe how to start writing
this code. Not actually writing it but like what IDE I would want to use and
again the language? Now I'm not a very experienced programmer, however I'm
trying to learn all the ins and outs of programming so think you can start me
off with what I would want to look into?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Correct, unless you want to write some code to do it now ... which is
possible.
Even in Visio 2010, it will not add or delete shapes automatically, just
refresh the data linked to existing shapes, so if you are expecting
additions or deletions then you will need to write code anyway.
Also, the Visio 2010 refresh is for diagrams published to SharePoint (MOSS)
only, thus you will need to write code if that is not your framework.
It is possible to setup an agent to silently start Visio, update the
diagram, then re-save as web page(s) automatically whenever something
changes, such as data, but that is custom code.
Post by Ryan Vande
So with what your saying, it will be safe for me to stop chasing this
objective for now because it cant happen (at least until the next
version
of
visio)?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Linked data and associated data graphics will be able to refreshed
automatically if you save to SharePoint in the next version on Visio.
http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/2009/07/17/visio-2010-technical-preview-released.aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
When I link objects to a database and then save the visio document
as a
web
page everything works good when I open that web page.
So one day I was like hmmm I wonder if this is dynamic, dynnamic
meaning
if
I change something in my table within the database will that saved
web
page
be updated with the changes?
And to my surprise It did not , I mean I could re save the Visio
document
as
a web page to reflect the changes but that is not what I am looking
for,
can
someone help me out with this issue? Can a visio document saved as a
web
page
be a "dynamic" web page that consistantly stays updated with the
database
?
Ryan Vande
2009-09-18 07:12:01 UTC
Permalink
Thank you for the insight ...

Agan I am not looking fo anyone to help me or too write the code for me, I
will never learnthi way. However if I have question's as I attempt to write
this code, isit ok if I post questios to you on these forums?

Any developer tool, dosn't matter which one, except for C I have never
touched C C++ C# Mainly Java, VBS,

But If C is the best language to use then I will hve tolear it huh?

Let me know which you prefer please
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Gosh ... depends on what tools you have available to you
I personally use VBA, vb.net and c# ... which happens to be the languages in
the Visio SDK Code Samples
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/aa905478.aspx
There's an example Save Drawing as Web under the Publishing branch, which
you need.. Then you need something to start that process after the drawing
has been refreshed....
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa245244(office.10).aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
Can you direct me into what language to use and maybe how to start writing
this code. Not actually writing it but like what IDE I would want to use and
again the language? Now I'm not a very experienced programmer, however I'm
trying to learn all the ins and outs of programming so think you can start me
off with what I would want to look into?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Correct, unless you want to write some code to do it now ... which is
possible.
Even in Visio 2010, it will not add or delete shapes automatically, just
refresh the data linked to existing shapes, so if you are expecting
additions or deletions then you will need to write code anyway.
Also, the Visio 2010 refresh is for diagrams published to SharePoint (MOSS)
only, thus you will need to write code if that is not your framework.
It is possible to setup an agent to silently start Visio, update the
diagram, then re-save as web page(s) automatically whenever something
changes, such as data, but that is custom code.
Post by Ryan Vande
So with what your saying, it will be safe for me to stop chasing this
objective for now because it cant happen (at least until the next
version
of
visio)?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Linked data and associated data graphics will be able to refreshed
automatically if you save to SharePoint in the next version on Visio.
http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/2009/07/17/visio-2010-technical-preview-released.aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
When I link objects to a database and then save the visio document
as a
web
page everything works good when I open that web page.
So one day I was like hmmm I wonder if this is dynamic, dynnamic
meaning
if
I change something in my table within the database will that saved
web
page
be updated with the changes?
And to my surprise It did not , I mean I could re save the Visio
document
as
a web page to reflect the changes but that is not what I am looking
for,
can
someone help me out with this issue? Can a visio document saved as a
web
page
be a "dynamic" web page that consistantly stays updated with the
database
?
David J Parker [MVP Visio]
2009-09-19 19:17:28 UTC
Permalink
Go for C# then, not C
See you around these parts....
Post by Ryan Vande
Thank you for the insight ...
Agan I am not looking fo anyone to help me or too write the code for me, I
will never learnthi way. However if I have question's as I attempt to write
this code, isit ok if I post questios to you on these forums?
Any developer tool, dosn't matter which one, except for C I have never
touched C C++ C# Mainly Java, VBS,
But If C is the best language to use then I will hve tolear it huh?
Let me know which you prefer please
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Gosh ... depends on what tools you have available to you
I personally use VBA, vb.net and c# ... which happens to be the languages in
the Visio SDK Code Samples
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/office/aa905478.aspx
There's an example Save Drawing as Web under the Publishing branch, which
you need.. Then you need something to start that process after the drawing
has been refreshed....
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa245244(office.10).aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
Can you direct me into what language to use and maybe how to start writing
this code. Not actually writing it but like what IDE I would want to
use
and
again the language? Now I'm not a very experienced programmer, however I'm
trying to learn all the ins and outs of programming so think you can
start
me
off with what I would want to look into?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Correct, unless you want to write some code to do it now ... which is
possible.
Even in Visio 2010, it will not add or delete shapes automatically, just
refresh the data linked to existing shapes, so if you are expecting
additions or deletions then you will need to write code anyway.
Also, the Visio 2010 refresh is for diagrams published to SharePoint (MOSS)
only, thus you will need to write code if that is not your framework.
It is possible to setup an agent to silently start Visio, update the
diagram, then re-save as web page(s) automatically whenever something
changes, such as data, but that is custom code.
Post by Ryan Vande
So with what your saying, it will be safe for me to stop chasing this
objective for now because it cant happen (at least until the next
version
of
visio)?
Post by David J Parker [MVP Visio]
Linked data and associated data graphics will be able to refreshed
automatically if you save to SharePoint in the next version on Visio.
http://blogs.msdn.com/visio/archive/2009/07/17/visio-2010-technical-preview-released.aspx
Post by Ryan Vande
When I link objects to a database and then save the visio document
as a
web
page everything works good when I open that web page.
So one day I was like hmmm I wonder if this is dynamic, dynnamic
meaning
if
I change something in my table within the database will that saved
web
page
be updated with the changes?
And to my surprise It did not , I mean I could re save the Visio
document
as
a web page to reflect the changes but that is not what I am looking
for,
can
someone help me out with this issue? Can a visio document saved as a
web
page
be a "dynamic" web page that consistantly stays updated with the
database
?
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